Comments on: The Cloud is a Lie http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/ Bitterness never tasted so sweet Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Qwertyftw http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8894 Qwertyftw Thu, 27 May 2010 23:50:00 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8894 Definitely sounds like you need you hole filled. Good luck with that Definitely sounds like you need you hole filled. Good luck with that

]]> By: David van D http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8553 David van D Wed, 19 May 2010 16:47:26 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8553 The zomgweb2point0cloudbbq crowd are either paid to promote or they don't understand the full picture about the driving force behind why its there, usually because they were influenced by the crowd who're paid to promote.<br><br>:D<br><br>In concept it's super amazing, in reality it's yet to prove itself as an industry norm. <br><br>It is what it is... The zomgweb2point0cloudbbq crowd are either paid to promote or they don't understand the full picture about the driving force behind why its there, usually because they were influenced by the crowd who're paid to promote.

:D

In concept it's super amazing, in reality it's yet to prove itself as an industry norm.

It is what it is…

]]> By: Eric http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8359 Eric Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:39:29 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8359 I went with rackspace cloud sites for the same reasons you mention moving to the cloud. But I could never get my web app to work in their modified medium trust environment (windows os), and since I couldn't access IIS logs directly, I was forced to make a change, wait up to 24 hours for them to respond, make another change, wait up to 24 hours, and so on. Finally, i just moved to an amazon ec2 instance, even though it does mean more sys admin work. I went with rackspace cloud sites for the same reasons you mention moving to the cloud. But I could never get my web app to work in their modified medium trust environment (windows os), and since I couldn't access IIS logs directly, I was forced to make a change, wait up to 24 hours for them to respond, make another change, wait up to 24 hours, and so on. Finally, i just moved to an amazon ec2 instance, even though it does mean more sys admin work.

]]> By: DrydenMaker http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8352 DrydenMaker Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:50:18 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8352 totally agree. Proof is in the marketing. #1 reason Rack Space gives you to buy in is "40,000+ Cloud Customers" totally agree. Proof is in the marketing. #1 reason Rack Space gives you to buy in is “40,000+ Cloud Customers”

]]> By: snipe http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8160 snipe Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:51:09 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8160 Sure - and I like Slicehost for some things. Not for hosting all of my sites and/or client sites though. As I mentioned, I was setting up CentOS the other day (including apache, php, mysql, etc.) The problem is not getting up and running - the problem is that other than barebones configurations, it requires a lot more work to secure a server you've built from scratch. Which is fine, if you have the time to invest. I don't. Sure – and I like Slicehost for some things. Not for hosting all of my sites and/or client sites though. As I mentioned, I was setting up CentOS the other day (including apache, php, mysql, etc.) The problem is not getting up and running – the problem is that other than barebones configurations, it requires a lot more work to secure a server you've built from scratch. Which is fine, if you have the time to invest. I don't.

]]> By: Laura Scott http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8159 Laura Scott Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:47:33 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8159 Definitely a challenge. I've been trying Slicehost and Linode and having generally positive experiences. Slicehost so far seems to be avoiding the issues of the Rackspace cloud, maybe because they were such a mature offering when Rackspace acquired them. Anyway, they're both very affordable as compared with managed hosting. But yes, you have to build from the ground up. Forget control panels, we're talking installing Apache, PHP, MySQL, Postfix and so on. Both have pretty excellent documentation and their support desks are quite responsive, especially when you consider what you're paying. Definitely a challenge. I've been trying Slicehost and Linode and having generally positive experiences. Slicehost so far seems to be avoiding the issues of the Rackspace cloud, maybe because they were such a mature offering when Rackspace acquired them. Anyway, they're both very affordable as compared with managed hosting. But yes, you have to build from the ground up. Forget control panels, we're talking installing Apache, PHP, MySQL, Postfix and so on. Both have pretty excellent documentation and their support desks are quite responsive, especially when you consider what you're paying.

]]> By: snipe http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8157 snipe Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:28:11 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8157 Hah! Too true :D Hah! Too true :D

]]> By: snipe http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8156 snipe Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:27:01 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8156 Oh god yes - I've been begging RS for security tools for a year. Did you read my open letter to RS? Oy.<br><a href="http://www.snipe.net/2010/01/an-open-letter-to-rackspace-cloud-hosting" rel="nofollow">http://www.snipe.net/2010/01/an-open-letter-to-...</a> Oh god yes – I've been begging RS for security tools for a year. Did you read my open letter to RS? Oy.
http://www.snipe.net/2010/01/an-open-letter-to-...

]]> By: snipe http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8154 snipe Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:23:18 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8154 Hi Henry - I am aware of managed VPS/managed dedicated hosting - that's the direction I'm looking for my own server environment. Always such mixed reviews, it's hard to cut through who is just being a whiner, whose needs are totally different than mine, etc. I'm checking out LiquidWeb right now. I hate that they use Cpanel, but they do offer Plesk as well, so that's something I guess. Unfortunately, for all the add-ons I'd want, it starts to get pricey but I'll find way. The bigger issue is that for my company, our clients want to see an impressive list f big name brands that also use the hosting company. Hi Henry – I am aware of managed VPS/managed dedicated hosting – that's the direction I'm looking for my own server environment. Always such mixed reviews, it's hard to cut through who is just being a whiner, whose needs are totally different than mine, etc. I'm checking out LiquidWeb right now. I hate that they use Cpanel, but they do offer Plesk as well, so that's something I guess. Unfortunately, for all the add-ons I'd want, it starts to get pricey but I'll find way. The bigger issue is that for my company, our clients want to see an impressive list f big name brands that also use the hosting company.

]]> By: snipe http://www.snipe.net/2010/03/the-cloud-is-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-8153 snipe Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:17:41 +0000 http://www.snipe.net/?p=2934#comment-8153 Hey Chuck - good to see you here :) I totally grok what you're saying, but as I said, I just don't have the resources to build my own at this point. I work full-time (not as a sysadmin), commute 4.5 hours a day, run a non-profit org, and in the four and a half minutes I have left every day, try to get a little sleep. Hey Chuck – good to see you here :) I totally grok what you're saying, but as I said, I just don't have the resources to build my own at this point. I work full-time (not as a sysadmin), commute 4.5 hours a day, run a non-profit org, and in the four and a half minutes I have left every day, try to get a little sleep.

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