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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.snipe.net/2009/01/learn-new-languages-online-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-8802</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed your obvious errors, but figured you were not an English speaker and just made a mistake.&lt;br&gt;:&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed your obvious errors, but figured you were not an English speaker and just made a mistake.<br />:&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: snipe</title>
		<link>http://www.snipe.net/2009/01/learn-new-languages-online-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-8271</link>
		<dc:creator>snipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another note - it would be SUPER helpful if LiveMocha included both the kanji AND the hiragana versions of the words. Hiragana is purely phonetic, but it&#039;s required by law to be included in some instances of Japanese publications, so it&#039;s something everyone learning japanese should know, and can be super helpful at deciphering pronunciations. I&#039;d prefer to not have to look at the Romaji versions (english text used to describe the phonetics), but LiveMocha currently only gives me the option of viewing kanji or romaji.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another note &#8211; it would be SUPER helpful if LiveMocha included both the kanji AND the hiragana versions of the words. Hiragana is purely phonetic, but it&#39;s required by law to be included in some instances of Japanese publications, so it&#39;s something everyone learning japanese should know, and can be super helpful at deciphering pronunciations. I&#39;d prefer to not have to look at the Romaji versions (english text used to describe the phonetics), but LiveMocha currently only gives me the option of viewing kanji or romaji.</p>
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		<title>By: snipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>snipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Dan - sorry for the delayed reply - past two weeks have been beating me to death. You were putting this article in an assignment? How did you find it? I swear a lot on this site, so I&#039;m not used to it being included in reports... lol)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m so thrilled you&#039;re excited about LiveMocha! Have you had a chance to play around yet? I&#039;ve started studying Japanese, so LiveMocha isn&#039;t perfect for learning from scratch, but it ends up being an excellent supplement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Dan &#8211; sorry for the delayed reply &#8211; past two weeks have been beating me to death. You were putting this article in an assignment? How did you find it? I swear a lot on this site, so I&#39;m not used to it being included in reports&#8230; lol)</p>
<p>I&#39;m so thrilled you&#39;re excited about LiveMocha! Have you had a chance to play around yet? I&#39;ve started studying Japanese, so LiveMocha isn&#39;t perfect for learning from scratch, but it ends up being an excellent supplement.</p>
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		<title>By: snipe</title>
		<link>http://www.snipe.net/2009/01/learn-new-languages-online-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-8273</link>
		<dc:creator>snipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ashley - congrats on your Italian successes! I&#039;m so thrilled to hear that. I completely agree that learning a new language shouldn&#039;t burn a hole in your wallet. Americans in particular get criticized for not being multi-lingual, but it felt like in order to really learn a language, you&#039;d have to spend a ton of money. Language is free, and the mechanism for learning it should be affordable. The fact that LiveMocha is a community, not just a piece of software, means that even after you finish your lessons, you&#039;ll be able to chat with other language-learners on the site and keep building your skills, which is fantastic :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ashley &#8211; congrats on your Italian successes! I&#39;m so thrilled to hear that. I completely agree that learning a new language shouldn&#39;t burn a hole in your wallet. Americans in particular get criticized for not being multi-lingual, but it felt like in order to really learn a language, you&#39;d have to spend a ton of money. Language is free, and the mechanism for learning it should be affordable. The fact that LiveMocha is a community, not just a piece of software, means that even after you finish your lessons, you&#39;ll be able to chat with other language-learners on the site and keep building your skills, which is fantastic <img src='http://www.snipe.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: snipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>snipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya jjdylan - yeah, I agree with you on a few of these points, some of which I mentioned in my review. In general, learning any non-roman language is harder on LiveMocha because they don&#039;t really address the fact that the symbols you&#039;re looking at are utterly meaningless in sound and meaning at the beginning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For latin-based languages, it&#039;s worked out really well. For Japanese, I&#039;m starting to use it as a supplement. I am learning Japanese using Rosetta Stone, an iphone app (not kidding - it&#039;s a great ine!), and a few mnemonic books to help me remember all of the symbols, and LiveMocha will be just another set in my toolbox for learning. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I haven&#039;t run into people being &quot;too&quot; nice on LM. Maybe it&#039;s just that Spanish-speaking people are better at beong assholes? lol j/k - they&#039;ve been supportive but not fibbing about my skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya jjdylan &#8211; yeah, I agree with you on a few of these points, some of which I mentioned in my review. In general, learning any non-roman language is harder on LiveMocha because they don&#39;t really address the fact that the symbols you&#39;re looking at are utterly meaningless in sound and meaning at the beginning.</p>
<p>For latin-based languages, it&#39;s worked out really well. For Japanese, I&#39;m starting to use it as a supplement. I am learning Japanese using Rosetta Stone, an iphone app (not kidding &#8211; it&#39;s a great ine!), and a few mnemonic books to help me remember all of the symbols, and LiveMocha will be just another set in my toolbox for learning. </p>
<p>I haven&#39;t run into people being &#8220;too&#8221; nice on LM. Maybe it&#39;s just that Spanish-speaking people are better at beong assholes? lol j/k &#8211; they&#39;ve been supportive but not fibbing about my skills.</p>
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		<title>By: jjdylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjdylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    I&#039;d like to say that I don&#039;t agree that there website is affective. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My first complaint about the site is the cyrillic alphabet.  My first Russian lesson started out not by teaching me cyrillic, but by throwing words and characters at me that I had to figure out which letter made what sound.  This wouldn&#039;t have been so bad, but there are subtle differences between the same character in different words.  Without knowing why a letter sounds like it does in a certain situation, you&#039;re left guessing why the speaker is saying it that way.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There were also different endings to words.  In the adjective, it seemed the adjective would change based on a masculine or feminine noun.  As soon as I figured that out I thought I was in the clear.  Then different adjectives for the same noun would have a different ending.  It would have been nice to have an introduction to adjectives before learning them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I very much liked the idea of being corrected by a native speaker initially.  When I first started getting responses and corrections it seemed like I was really starting to get a grip of the language.  Then i went to go correct a Russian native speaking English.  Most of the English native tutors were telling people they were doing great when their spelling would be off, or giving one correction to a paragraph riddled with errors.  I&#039;m not saying that I&#039;m an English genius by any means, but these were simple mistakes.  It got me wondering if the Russian natives were just being as lenient with me as the English natives were with them.  Also, English is a confusing language for everyone, even English speakers.  For example, how many of you noticed that I used &#039;there&#039; instead of &#039;their&#039;, and &#039;affective&#039; instead of &#039;effective&#039; in my first sentence?  Like I&#039;ve said, I&#039;m not an English genius, and I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve made many more mistakes than I even realize.  For this reason, I don&#039;t believe being able to speak a language qualifies you to tutor someone else to learn.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A few ways I think this website would work better.  &lt;br&gt;1.  If live mocha didn&#039;t treat every language equally. &lt;br&gt;2.  If there were a grammar section if needed), before each unit.&lt;br&gt;3.  As a member, try to find and add friends that are the most critical of submissions.&lt;br&gt;4.  As a member, review another person&#039;s submission carefully, and be very critical.&lt;br&gt;5.  Until they put in a grammar section, buy a grammar book first to learn key components of the language.&lt;br&gt;6.  Have pictures of naked ladies in the learning section. (just kidding) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone,</p>
<p>    I&#39;d like to say that I don&#39;t agree that there website is affective. </p>
<p>My first complaint about the site is the cyrillic alphabet.  My first Russian lesson started out not by teaching me cyrillic, but by throwing words and characters at me that I had to figure out which letter made what sound.  This wouldn&#39;t have been so bad, but there are subtle differences between the same character in different words.  Without knowing why a letter sounds like it does in a certain situation, you&#39;re left guessing why the speaker is saying it that way.  </p>
<p>There were also different endings to words.  In the adjective, it seemed the adjective would change based on a masculine or feminine noun.  As soon as I figured that out I thought I was in the clear.  Then different adjectives for the same noun would have a different ending.  It would have been nice to have an introduction to adjectives before learning them.</p>
<p>I very much liked the idea of being corrected by a native speaker initially.  When I first started getting responses and corrections it seemed like I was really starting to get a grip of the language.  Then i went to go correct a Russian native speaking English.  Most of the English native tutors were telling people they were doing great when their spelling would be off, or giving one correction to a paragraph riddled with errors.  I&#39;m not saying that I&#39;m an English genius by any means, but these were simple mistakes.  It got me wondering if the Russian natives were just being as lenient with me as the English natives were with them.  Also, English is a confusing language for everyone, even English speakers.  For example, how many of you noticed that I used &#39;there&#39; instead of &#39;their&#39;, and &#39;affective&#39; instead of &#39;effective&#39; in my first sentence?  Like I&#39;ve said, I&#39;m not an English genius, and I&#39;m sure I&#39;ve made many more mistakes than I even realize.  For this reason, I don&#39;t believe being able to speak a language qualifies you to tutor someone else to learn.</p>
<p>A few ways I think this website would work better.  <br />1.  If live mocha didn&#39;t treat every language equally. <br />2.  If there were a grammar section if needed), before each unit.<br />3.  As a member, try to find and add friends that are the most critical of submissions.<br />4.  As a member, review another person&#39;s submission carefully, and be very critical.<br />5.  Until they put in a grammar section, buy a grammar book first to learn key components of the language.<br />6.  Have pictures of naked ladies in the learning section. (just kidding) <img src='http://www.snipe.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ashleyn90</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashleyn90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Live mocha is a great way to learn a new language.  I have been a member on the site since Feburary 18, 2010.  I am currently learning Italian with the site and I am doing very well at it.  I like that the site is free.  I believe that learning a new language should not leave a burn hole in your wallet.  Live mocha does not do that, unlike Rosetta Stone.  Before I used Live mocha, I was using a software called BYKI by Transparent Language Inc.  The software is great for people who travel alot.  All of the software was flashcards that would have audio and the word and then the translation.  There were writing and self-check modes, but that will did not help me.  When I discovered Live mocha, I was thrilled.  I have been wanting to learn Italian for seven years and Live mocha is making it into a reality.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like it because the material is not overwheleming, you can learn at your own pace, and it is entertaining at the same time too.  This keeps me coming back everyday.  I took German for four years in high school, I passed the class, but I did not learn anything.  I shortly took the course and did better on Live mocha than I did in that classroom for four years.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, Live mocha does need to do make of list of words that you need help with, but I like the fact that you can see how you are doing with a progress score.  This helps me very much!  I absoultely agree with you, as the community grows, so will Live mocha too.  I can not wait to see what they have instore for the future.  I this is the language learning website for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Live mocha is a great way to learn a new language.  I have been a member on the site since Feburary 18, 2010.  I am currently learning Italian with the site and I am doing very well at it.  I like that the site is free.  I believe that learning a new language should not leave a burn hole in your wallet.  Live mocha does not do that, unlike Rosetta Stone.  Before I used Live mocha, I was using a software called BYKI by Transparent Language Inc.  The software is great for people who travel alot.  All of the software was flashcards that would have audio and the word and then the translation.  There were writing and self-check modes, but that will did not help me.  When I discovered Live mocha, I was thrilled.  I have been wanting to learn Italian for seven years and Live mocha is making it into a reality.  </p>
<p>I like it because the material is not overwheleming, you can learn at your own pace, and it is entertaining at the same time too.  This keeps me coming back everyday.  I took German for four years in high school, I passed the class, but I did not learn anything.  I shortly took the course and did better on Live mocha than I did in that classroom for four years.  </p>
<p>Yes, Live mocha does need to do make of list of words that you need help with, but I like the fact that you can see how you are doing with a progress score.  This helps me very much!  I absoultely agree with you, as the community grows, so will Live mocha too.  I can not wait to see what they have instore for the future.  I this is the language learning website for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Livemocha Social Network: The Latest in Language Learning &#124; Thoughtpick Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livemocha Social Network: The Latest in Language Learning &#124; Thoughtpick Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are perhaps only two downsides to Livemocha’s user-driven approach. The first is that the Livemocha software encourages you to “friend” or partner with students [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are perhaps only two downsides to Livemocha’s user-driven approach. The first is that the Livemocha software encourages you to “friend” or partner with students [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.snipe.net/2009/01/learn-new-languages-online-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-8105</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Cow. You rock! Another major language geek here. I just wanted your article to add to my assignment on &quot;Educational Web Site Reviews&quot; and ended up finding a GEM!! Not only was your article an amazing pleasure to read (you DO kick ass) I am joining LiveMocha. I WILL NEVER SLEEP AGAIN. Turkish, Japanese, Welsh, here we come! (By the way, I&#039;m also fairly fluent in Irish Gaelic. Maith thu, a chailin!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Cow. You rock! Another major language geek here. I just wanted your article to add to my assignment on &#8220;Educational Web Site Reviews&#8221; and ended up finding a GEM!! Not only was your article an amazing pleasure to read (you DO kick ass) I am joining LiveMocha. I WILL NEVER SLEEP AGAIN. Turkish, Japanese, Welsh, here we come! (By the way, I&#39;m also fairly fluent in Irish Gaelic. Maith thu, a chailin!)</p>
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		<title>By: snipe</title>
		<link>http://www.snipe.net/2009/01/learn-new-languages-online-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-4930</link>
		<dc:creator>snipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh huh - says the guy whose link goes to someone pitching &quot;learn spanish&quot; DVDs. Was very tempted to mark your post as spam, since it very clearly is. But I didn&#039;t, because who the hell would buy DVDs, when this post is about the fact that LiveMocha is great - and FREE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh huh &#8211; says the guy whose link goes to someone pitching &#8220;learn spanish&#8221; DVDs. Was very tempted to mark your post as spam, since it very clearly is. But I didn&#8217;t, because who the hell would buy DVDs, when this post is about the fact that LiveMocha is great &#8211; and FREE.</p>
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